Buzzing About HR
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Straight-talking HR for real businesses (the kind where you are doing payroll, sales, and playing therapist before lunch).
From Kate Underwood HR & Training, this podcast makes the people stuff make sense, without the corporate jargon and “synergy” nonsense.
Hosted by award-winning HR expert Kate Underwood, each episode is designed for real life. You know, the moments nobody prepares you for:
- The employee who is brilliant at the job but chaos in the team
- The manager who avoids tough conversations until it turns into a bin fire
- The “it’s only a small issue” grievance that suddenly becomes a formal complaint
- The sickness pattern that is suspiciously linked to Mondays and payday
- The resignation that makes you think, “Wait… what did we miss?”
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Stop Playing HR Cluedo: How to Run an Investigation Properly
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If someone says “Can I have a quick word?” and your stomach drops, last week was about grievances. This week is what comes next.
Investigations.
And this is where most small businesses wobble a bit.
Not because you’re doing anything wrong.
Because you’re trying to figure it out on the spot, while everyone else is already feeling stressed.
In this episode of Buzzing About HR, I walk you through how to run a workplace investigation properly. No drama. No overcomplicating it. And definitely no “corridor justice.”
At its core, an investigation is simple. It’s a fact-finding exercise.
Not a disciplinary. Not a verdict.
You are gathering information so you can make a fair decision later.
We go step by step through what that actually looks like in real life.
How to pause and steady things first if emotions are high
How to write a clear scope so it doesn’t spiral into “and another thing…”
How to focus on the right evidence without dragging half the team into it
And how to keep a simple log so you are not relying on memory later
We also talk about the bit people find hardest. The conversations.
You will get simple ways to open meetings so people feel calmer, and questions that get to the facts without putting words in someone’s mouth. Because “everyone knows” is not evidence. It’s gossip in a nice outfit.
Then we bring it back to what really protects you.
Not a perfect process.
Just a fair one.
Clear steps.
Consistent approach.
Short, factual notes.
And giving people a proper chance to respond.
If you run a small business or manage people, this is one of those moments where a bit of structure makes everything feel more manageable.
Press play, take what you need, and next time something lands on your desk, you will know exactly where to start.
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Why Investigations Go Wrong
What An Investigation Really Is
Risk Check And Stabilise First
Set The Scope Before Chaos
Evidence Plan And Who To Interview
Evidence Log And Meeting Order
Neutral Questions And Confidentiality
Write A Neutral Report
Next Steps And ACAS Fairness
Templates Challenge And Closing
KateIt's Tuesday, the 17th of March. So happy St Patrick's Day. If you're celebrating, I hope it involves something green, something fizzy, and absolutely nothing that ends with a sorry I slept through my alarm message tomorrow. If you listened to last week's episode, you'll remember we talked about that dreaded sentence. Can I have a quick word? And how? Nine times out of ten, it's the start of a grievance conversation. Well, this week is what happens next. Because once someone's raised a complaint and you've acknowledged it properly, the next step is often an investigation. And this is where small businesses panic, wing it, and accidentally turn one issue into three. Hazel is doing her morning patrol. She's walked into the room, sighed like she pays the mortgage, and parked herself behind me like a tiny furry supervisor. She's basically here to make sure I don't do anything silly. Frankly, she's doing the Lord's work. This is Buzzing About HR, and today we're talking stop playing HR Cludo. How to run an investigation properly, without drama, without corridor justice, and without accidentally making it worse. Hello and welcome back. It's Kate. If you've never run an investigation before, you're not behind. Most people haven't. You're running a business, not a courtroom. But when something lands on your desk, you do need a process. Not because you want to be corporate, because you want to be fair, consistent, and able to sleep at night without replaying the conversation at 2 a.m. So I'm going to give you a simple step-by-step plan today. You can follow it like a checklist, and it will stop you doing corridor justice, which is where most businesses come unstuck. The Hive Brief. Let's start with what an investigation actually is. An investigation is a fact-finding exercise. That's it. It's not disciplinary. It's not a verdict. It's not I've decided and now I'm collecting proof. It's you gathering information so you can make a fair decision later. If you remember nothing else, remember this. Investigation first. Decision later. Because the minute you decide first, your questions get leading, your brain gets selective, and the whole thing becomes shaky. And if you're thinking, Kate, we're only small, yes. That's why you need this. You don't have HR sitting in the background tidying it all up afterwards. The sting. Right. Here's the step-by-step plan. Step one. Pause. Do a quick risk check. Before you rush into meetings, ask yourself, is anyone at risk right now? Is there a safety issue? Is this something that could escalate quickly? Is evidence likely to disappear? Are people so wound up they can't even be in the same room? If the answer is yes, you stabilize things first. Calm, practical steps. That might be separating people temporarily. Adjusting shifts, changing reporting lines, removing access to systems, and in serious cases, considering suspension. But suspension is neutral. It's not punishment. It's basically you saying we need space to look into this properly. Hazel has just sighed at the word suspension. She hates unnecessary drama. Same Hazel. Step two. This is what people skip. And then the investigation turns into chaos. Write one paragraph that says what is being alleged, roughly when it happened. Who is involved? What you are trying to establish. And what is not part of this investigation. If you don't do this, it becomes an another thing. And suddenly, you're investigating five years of workplace history and someone's tone of voice in 2019. Step 3. Make a simple plan for evidence and people. This is where we stop playing HR Cluedo. List what you need to look at emails, Teams messages, WhatsApp, CCTV, rotors and timesheets, policies, training records, anything else that actually proves what happened. Then list who you need to speak to. The person raising the concern. Any witnesses with direct knowledge. The person being investigated. And here's the rule: you are not interviewing everyone. You are interviewing the people who actually know something. Otherwise, you create gossip and stress for no reason. And if you're wondering how you spot what's relevant, you don't need to become CSI, Small Business Edition. Hazel can hear a cheese packet open from three rooms away. That's the energy you want for evidence. Notice what matters, follow the trail, ignore the noise. Step four, start an evidence log. I know. A log, another document, but hear me out. This is what saves you later when someone says, Where did you get that from? Or you've ignored my evidence. Your log is simple. Date, what it is, who provided it, where it's stored, why it's relevant, that's it. Step 5. Do meetings in an order that makes sense. Generally, complainant first, then witnesses. Then the person being investigated. Because you need to understand the allegation properly before you put it to the employee. At each meeting, say the same opener so it stays calm. Thanks for coming in. This is a fact-finding meeting. No decisions are being made today. I'm here to understand what happened. I'll take notes and you'll be able to review them afterwards. That one opener reduces a lot of tension. Step six. Ask questions that don't put words in someone's mouth. This is the biggest difference between a good investigation and a messy one. Avoid questions like why did you do that? So you admit you were rude? Do you accept you breached policy? Those are leading. They're accusatory. Instead use talk me through what happened. What did you see or hear? What was said? What happened next? Who else was there? What evidence do you have? And if someone says everyone knows they do this, you respond with who has seen it and when. Because everyone knows is not evidence. It's gossip in a nice outfit. Step seven. Keep it confidential and manage the vibe in the workplace. Investigations make people anxious. Rumours start. People pick sides. It's like year nine with payroll. So you keep it tight. You tell people This is confidential, please don't discuss it. If the wider team needs a line, keep it minimal. We're dealing with a matter through the correct process. Please focus on work and speak to your manager if you have concerns. Step 8. Write a neutral report. Your report should say what the allegation is, what you reviewed, who you spoke to, what the key facts are, where there are gaps, and whether there's a case to answer. It's not a rant, it's not a character assessment. It's a summary of what you found. Use neutral wording. It is alleged. It was stated. The evidence shows the witness recalled avoid. They lied. They're always like this. They were obviously guilty. Keep it boring. Boring is good. Boring stands up. Step nine. Decide next steps and communicate calmly. Once the report is done, the outcome could be no case to answer, close it. Informal action or training. A case to answer, proceed to disciplinary. Then you communicate next steps properly, keeping confidentiality. Legal angel. Here's the ACAS friendly bit in plain English. A fair investigation is about being reasonable. Reasonable steps, reasonable timescales, reasonable impartiality, reasonable chance for the employee to respond. You don't need a gold plated process. You need something you can defend as fair. Two warnings don't ask leading questions and don't delay. Delay makes everything worse. Memories fade, evidence disappears, people get stressed and start talking. And if it's serious or involves discrimination, harassment, whistleblowing, safeguarding, or anything criminal, get support early. Don't wing it. Small business actions. Here's your checklist, risk check, scope paragraph, evidence plan, evidence log, meetings in order, neutral questions, confidentiality, neutral report. Clear next step. If you do those nine things, you'll be ahead of most employers and you'll massively reduce your risk. This week's challenge. This week, create three templates and save them somewhere sensible. An investigation invite email. An evidence log. An investigation notes template. So when something happens, you're not starting from scratch while stressed. And if you're already mid-in investigation, do one thing today. Write your scope paragraph. What you're investigating and what you're not. It instantly calms the chaos. Investigations don't need to be dramatic, they need to be structured. Stop playing HR Cluedo. Stop doing corridor justice. Stop deciding first and investigating second. Be fair. Be calm. Follow a process. Hazel is now sitting in the doorway. Like nightclub security. Which I'm taking as her way of saying, this meeting is over, please exit politely. And because it's St. Patrick's Day, she's also doing that hopeful little head tilt that says, any chance of a green biscuit? Spoiler, there is no green biscuit. There is, however, a strong chance she'll accept cheese as legal tender. It's also properly sunny today. Spring is in the air. Let's hope it lasts because I need to dry out my webbed feet after the last few months of British weather. Kettle on, standards up, see you next time.
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